OH NOES.

Apparently I got unfollowed by daring to acknowledge the fact that some people believe that racism is a word that shouldn’t describe the hateful views of minorities in the same way that it does to those of white people and that the practice of racism is inextricably tied up with power.

Note that I never said this was something I believed: I merely said that this fact is debatable (and I also later said—though I shouldn’t need to have, since DUH—that people of color are clearly capable of harboring hateful thoughts about other ethnicities). I don’t think anybody thinks that people of color are incapable of irrational hate: just that such hate doesn’t have the same weight of history behind it that white hatred of non-white ethnicities does. I’m not sure why this is even controversial. Oh well, I suppose reading is hard, especially when it’s so delicious to be correct and righteously indignant on the internets.

But then I went and ventured on to this person’s tumblr and found the following gem:

Criticize Israel and its policies and the actions of particular settlers all you want (Lord knows, I’m Jewish and I do this a LOT): but use the actions of a few to suggest that Hitler might have been onto something? Good riddance, unfollower. You’re gross.


Why White People?

I just received an ask that attempted to take me to task for only highlighting racism from white people, saying that if I wanted to make a difference, I should focus on racism coming from everybody, not just white people. How this difference would be measured and how the asker seemed to know that my doing this would make a difference, I don’t know. But let’s leave that aside.

This Tumblr is not about calling out every single time a person says a racist thing. It’s even debatable whether or not people of color in the United States (if not most of the West) are capable of racism, if we understand racism as being inextricably tied to power structures (the shorthand would be that racism is prejudice + power). Certainly people of color can make prejudicial statements about people of other ethnicities: there’s absolutely no debate there. But without the tacit institutional and societal backing (that leads to things like stop-and-frisk practices, severely disparate sentencing in our justice system, the erosion of voting rights, or even something as mundane as being followed around a store on the presumption of being up to no good), such prejudicial views, while noxious, have a limited impact on others. In short, white racism helps to perpetuate the worst things about our country; racism (or prejudice, whatever you want to call it) from people of color, though ugly, does not. There’s no way of meaningfully equivocating the two without being stunningly oblivious to history.

So, here’s the thing. I started this when I saw that the overwhelming majority of people up in arms about the Paula Deen affair were white Americans. And more to the point, those white people mad at Food Network (the original title of this Tumblr) were often displaying their racism through the things they said. I highly doubt, however, that most of them understood they were racist: it’s often dressed up as nationalism or color-blindness or religiousness. That’s how these things tend to go. They don’t think of themselves as bad people, and, honestly, they’re probably not bad people. I’m sure most of them are kind and love their friends and family and want a better world, just like most of the rest of us.

The problem is twofold: 1) it’s really easy to be racist and 2) we have this unfortunate caricature of what a racist is in our minds (think: Nazi, Klansman, Skinhead, etc.). As such, the minor, everyday racism that’s unwittingly perpetrated by otherwise lovely people doesn’t get called out, because we don’t want to think of our friends and family as racists (see point 2) above. The point is that racism is incredibly mundane, and that’s why it’s so insidious (cf. Arendt and the banality of evil, etc.): it’s so easy, but we have this mistaken impression that racists are this evil monster who is easy to recognize from a goose-step or a white hood, so when we don’t see those things, we ignore the much more real (and, in their aggregate, threatening) microaggressions.

I’m calling out white people saying racist shit in public forums not so much for their own edification (since they often have people responding to them already), but to put them on display so that others can see what racism actually looks like. Additionally, I sometimes have amusing things to say because, let’s face it, a lot of these folks are pretty funny.

So, there you go, asker. I ignored your comment through Tumblr since I didn’t want to give you a pulpit (this is, after all, my show), but I have responded in as civil a manner as I know how. You also predicted I’d lash out at you with hate, though I’m not sure where you get that idea. Projecting, perhaps?


jean-luc-gohard:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

european-traditionalist:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

Oh, hello there, Islamophobia. I suppose I should have expected you.

Your confusing an ethnic group with a religion

1. You’re confusing “your” with “you’re,” genius.
2. Way to be late to the party. This happened almost 6 months ago.
3. I’m not confusing anything: this is Islamophobia. She singles out Arabic for special criticism (among the many languages used) as a “slap in the face,” no doubt informed by a decade-long metonymic mistrust of all Arab speakers because of 9/11 and the subsequent war on terror. Arabic is a stand-in for Islam, here, and she’s expressing her distaste for Arabic. If you can’t read what she wrote as coded Islamophobia, then you’re just not very bright.
4. Speaking of confusion, you’re (see how that word works?) confusing a language for an ethnic group: Arabic is spoken as a primary language not only in the Middle East, but much of North and West Africa, encompassing many different ethnicities. It’s the world’s fifth largest language in terms of number of native speakers (295 million—just shy of the population of the United States) and it has a wide variety of dialects. 

You’re responding to a white supremacist. I don’t think you’re gonna get too far with this one.

Oh, I know. I’ve been picking fights with White Power Rangers online since the mid-90s on Usenet. I know I won’t change her mind. It’s enough to expose her mind-numbing stupidity to a larger audience. It brings me joy.

jean-luc-gohard:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

european-traditionalist:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

Oh, hello there, Islamophobia. I suppose I should have expected you.

Your confusing an ethnic group with a religion

1. You’re confusing “your” with “you’re,” genius.

2. Way to be late to the party. This happened almost 6 months ago.

3. I’m not confusing anything: this is Islamophobia. She singles out Arabic for special criticism (among the many languages used) as a “slap in the face,” no doubt informed by a decade-long metonymic mistrust of all Arab speakers because of 9/11 and the subsequent war on terror. Arabic is a stand-in for Islam, here, and she’s expressing her distaste for Arabic. If you can’t read what she wrote as coded Islamophobia, then you’re just not very bright.

4. Speaking of confusion, you’re (see how that word works?) confusing a language for an ethnic group: Arabic is spoken as a primary language not only in the Middle East, but much of North and West Africa, encompassing many different ethnicities. It’s the world’s fifth largest language in terms of number of native speakers (295 million—just shy of the population of the United States) and it has a wide variety of dialects. 

You’re responding to a white supremacist. I don’t think you’re gonna get too far with this one.

Oh, I know. I’ve been picking fights with White Power Rangers online since the mid-90s on Usenet. I know I won’t change her mind. It’s enough to expose her mind-numbing stupidity to a larger audience. It brings me joy.


european-traditionalist:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

Oh, hello there, Islamophobia. I suppose I should have expected you.

Your confusing an ethnic group with a religion

1. You’re confusing “your” with “you’re,” genius.
2. Way to be late to the party. This happened almost 6 months ago.
3. I’m not confusing anything: this is Islamophobia. She singles out Arabic for special criticism (among the many languages used) as a “slap in the face,” no doubt informed by a decade-long metonymic mistrust of all Arab speakers because of 9/11 and the subsequent war on terror. Arabic is a stand-in for Islam, here, and she’s expressing her distaste for Arabic. If you can’t read what she wrote as coded Islamophobia, then you’re just not very bright.
4. Speaking of confusion, you’re (see how that word works?) confusing a language for an ethnic group: Arabic is spoken as a primary language not only in the Middle East, but much of North and West Africa, encompassing many different ethnicities. It’s the world’s fifth largest language in terms of number of native speakers (295 million—just shy of the population of the United States) and it has a wide variety of dialects. 

european-traditionalist:

whitepeoplemadatthings:

Oh, hello there, Islamophobia. I suppose I should have expected you.

Your confusing an ethnic group with a religion

1. You’re confusing “your” with “you’re,” genius.

2. Way to be late to the party. This happened almost 6 months ago.

3. I’m not confusing anything: this is Islamophobia. She singles out Arabic for special criticism (among the many languages used) as a “slap in the face,” no doubt informed by a decade-long metonymic mistrust of all Arab speakers because of 9/11 and the subsequent war on terror. Arabic is a stand-in for Islam, here, and she’s expressing her distaste for Arabic. If you can’t read what she wrote as coded Islamophobia, then you’re just not very bright.

4. Speaking of confusion, you’re (see how that word works?) confusing a language for an ethnic group: Arabic is spoken as a primary language not only in the Middle East, but much of North and West Africa, encompassing many different ethnicities. It’s the world’s fifth largest language in terms of number of native speakers (295 million—just shy of the population of the United States) and it has a wide variety of dialects. 



Q
Can you please explain your reasoning for believing the term white privilege to be racist?
A

putmeincoach:

that-sassy-sarcastic-gurl:

reexamine-yourself:

putmeincoach:

reexamine-yourself:

putmeincoach:

It’s assuming a trait about a certain group of people without much merit behind the claim. Is it an absolute privilege? No, affirmative action is a “privilege” not bestowed upon white people (Unless you’re a white female).

All apex fallacies can be considered bigoted, since they cannot really be proven and don’t take into account individual cases where there are many exceptions on either side of the hierarchy.

If Neil DeGrasse Tyson walked into a high end store, I doubt he’d be followed around by management. It’s how you present yourself, not the color of your skin that determines your place in society.

It would be really nice if that were the case, but racism is still a very real threat to PoC in America. Do you think PoC are making everything up then? That we’re being sensitive? That in recognizing what’s being done to us somehow makes us the racist ones? Because that is what you’ve just implied, and I’m hoping that’s not what you meant.

Privilege is a relative term, and that’s what most people fail to realize. Because America is a predominantly white country, white people generally receive preferential treatment from other whites over nonwhites, even if both are of the same social standing. That’s it. That’s white privilege in a nutshell (it’s actually more than just that, but we’ll keep it at its most basic for this convo). It’s not always carried out in blatantly racist ways either. Recognizing the existence of white privilege does not diminish any problems white people individually still have. It is not assuming that white people have zero problems in life, or that the problems a white person may have isn’t comparable to that a PoC would have. It also isn’t calling all white people racist. All it points out is that white people do not have the barrier of what their race is holding them back or disrupting their lives.

"Bla bla bla, Apex fallacy!*

Verbal diarrhea of word salad. You get off on being a victim you pathetic human being. You will never amount to anything because you blame others for your failings. Now, I’m going to ask you to leave me alone for the last time, because you’re not interested in anything but confirmation bias and making sure everyone hears your sad little opinions.

Loser.

Wow dude. You really are racist. I was honestly hoping you were just very confused, but wow. No, you’re a racist AND a hypocrite because everything you’ve just accused me of is what you do. As soon as I say something you disagree with you go off the deep end and yet I’m the one overreacting? I rather think you’re the one who gets off on pretending to be a victim because you refuse to acknowledge any form of actual problems people face unless they’re problems YOU face. And funny enough dude, that’s actually white privilege. Stating that white people do not face institutionalized racism isn’t a racist thing to say.

Finally someone said it ^

Yes, I’m sure the white people still left in good old liberal-run Detroit are treated fairly by the black politicians that comprise the vast majority of lawmakers. Oh, wait, their mayor for over 20 years made it very clear that white people weren’t welcome. That tradition continues in Detroit, despite the fact that their mayor is currently white. You reap what you sow, and no one is doomed to a life of poverty. Most white millionaires you see haven’t acquired their wealth through a dynastic succession, they earned it from humble beginnings, especially black millionaires. It’s no one’s fault but your own, and by looking for a scapegoat for every one of your hardships, it objectively makes you look pathetic.

Is it at all surprising to anyone that putmeincoach is an MRA? Because I’m not surprised. Not at all.





Without a doubt, if these individuals had been Muslim, it not only would be called ‘terrorism’ but it would have made national and international headlines for weeks,” said Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based group. “It was an act of terror, but when it’s not associated with Muslims it’s just a day story that comes and goes.

In the news media, are Muslims the only ‘terrorists’? (via wilwheaton)

Not only this, but you can bet your sweet bippy that none of the talking heads on Fox News are going to be asking leaders from the white Christian community to denounce these actions.

(via wilwheaton)